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11/15
17:181700036283291215
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Anton Yadrov
If your desk is from fiber and particle boards, then it is pointless to disassemble it, I assure you. They're one-time use, even expensive ones, unfortunately.
11/15
17:181700036286611730
17:181700036286611730
Yamato
so if I order the table around mid December, I should have enough time to test the table over the holidays (if I can finish the office floor before that)
11/15
17:191700036347839238
17:191700036347839238
Yamato
according to the listing, it is real oak for the top
11/15
17:191700036370448125
17:191700036370448125
Himmel
Nice.
11/15
17:211700036517525212
17:211700036517525212
Himmel
You know with the price of desks and how even some of the more expensive ones being made of particle boards I am seriously considering going to the nearest home improvement centre and just building
11/15
17:211700036518914504
17:211700036518914504
Anton Yadrov
Only for the top?
11/15
17:221700036529878563
17:221700036529878563
Himmel
one from 2x4s
11/15
17:221700036555790557
17:221700036555790557
Yamato
the feet are metal. It is a height adjustable one Anton
11/15
17:221700036572532355
17:221700036572532355
Himmel
Ohhh then it should survive
11/15
17:231700036592923747
17:231700036592923747
Himmel
Nothing to really break taking apart and putting back together.
11/15
17:231700036593062802
17:231700036593062802
Anton Yadrov
Yeah, it should be OK, then.
11/15
17:241700036689041009
17:241700036689041009
Yamato
I guess I could also just take my PC appart and move that upstairs for testing didn't cross my mind
11/15
17:251700036717385466
17:251700036717385466
Yamato
though moving 3 monitors on a stand is a pita too
11/15
17:251700036735347694
17:251700036735347694
Anton Yadrov
Honestly, if we had a reliable and cheap enough wood retailer where I live, I would build my furniture from scratch, too. Unfortunately, no such luck. Particle landfill it is...
11/15
17:251700036749555218
17:251700036749555218
Himmel
Can't you pop off the vesa mount from the stand really easy?
11/15
17:261700036766862321
17:261700036766862321
Yamato
I guess
11/15
17:271700036825048879
17:271700036825048879
Yamato
would do that too Anton, but that is also really really expensive. Probably spent around 30-35k on renovation already
11/15
17:271700036827376276
17:271700036827376276
Himmel
Dude i am not joking but there's a place near me that is D*ck's Lumber and 2x4s are dirt cheap bro
11/15
17:271700036860498089
17:271700036860498089
Yamato
and I still need all the furniture for my office as well as a 3m worth of bookshelfs for the living room
11/15
17:281700036933879205
17:281700036933879205
Himmel
Dude don't ever skimp on bookshelves. Ikea bookshelves really are not the way to go.
11/15
17:281700036937283107
17:281700036937283107
Yamato
*bookshelves... english hard
11/15
17:291700036989759440
17:291700036989759440
Yamato
dw, I won't go IKEA for that. The bookshelf is the center point of the whole living room. It needs to be good
11/15
17:301700037041714514
17:301700037041714514
Himmel
Not to mention books are heavy subpar shelves collapse and ruin the books...
11/15
17:311700037089778683
17:311700037089778683
Yamato
only problem I have is, that the ceiling has a slope... so I need to make work with that
11/15
17:321700037165622205
17:321700037165622205
Himmel
Interesting
11/15
17:351700037303123935
17:351700037303123935
Yamato
probably have to find some kind of modular bookshelf that I can put together how I want it to be
11/15
17:361700037411865814
17:361700037411865814
Anton Yadrov
What books don't fit on my desk, I store in my bed and sofa. Don't have much, and I'm not an artist, so I'll take digital over paper any day. Not to mention it's more eco-friendly.
11/15
17:371700037468077310
17:371700037468077310
Yamato
understandable, I like to collect and read on paper
11/15
17:381700037488637219
17:381700037488637219
Himmel
Yeah it is far more eco-friendly I don't know there's just something about just opening a book the smell and feel of the paper is just so appealing.
11/15
17:391700037556774345
17:391700037556774345
Yamato
looking at all the matching and different spines gives me a feel of happines, not sure why... might be weird
11/15
17:391700037574326994
17:391700037574326994
Himmel
Agreed
11/15
17:401700037608709639
17:401700037608709639
Himmel
Not the weird part but the part before it
11/15
17:411700037699611443
17:411700037699611443
Yamato
like the 106 or some volumes of One Piece in Japanese... they just look nice
11/15
17:421700037732521242
17:421700037732521242
Himmel
11/15
17:421700037735103867
17:421700037735103867
Anton Yadrov
We have to put ecology above our little guilty pleasures, after all. That's how I got myself to "convert". And can definitely relate on cataloguing satisfaction. In my case, it's good ol' ASD's fault.
11/15
17:421700037767389132
17:421700037767389132
Anton Yadrov
Digital you can always take with you and read on the go, too.
11/15
17:441700037855716851
17:441700037855716851
Himmel
I rarely read outside though too many distractions and usually when I am out and about it's because I need to do something. Also can't quite read when I am driving a car either.
11/15
17:441700037869205665
17:441700037869205665
Yamato
I would love to be more eco friendly, but physical books are one of the few things I really enjoy besides Hololive. Also if I read digital I always get distracted
11/15
17:461700037974979462
17:461700037974979462
Himmel
This might sound like a joke but I am dead serious I wonder if switching to a bidet would be actually really eco friendly compared to toilet paper.
11/15
17:461700038017451462
17:461700038017451462
SpudTako
better for you hole too
11/15
17:471700038022067403
17:471700038022067403
SpudTako
your*
11/15
17:471700038055430277
17:471700038055430277
SpudTako
i would still keep toilet paper , but it helps cut down on how much you use
11/15
17:471700038055449738
17:471700038055449738
Anton Yadrov
Bidet gang, represent. Also had distractibility issues with digital, too, still have. But thinking of eco impact kinda puts me back into focus.
11/15
17:481700038139869702
17:481700038139869702
Yamato
I would like if they improved public transport around my area... there are exactly 4 busses (only on weekdays) that go through my village into the next city
11/15
17:491700038155644614
17:491700038155644614
Yamato
and if I want to use the train there is only 1 every 2 1/2 hours...
11/15
17:501700038219134074
17:501700038219134074
Himmel
But here's the counter point to the toilet paper though. The extra materials needed to make the toilet, the extra fuel needed to transport said toilet then the disposing of my current toilet.
11/15
17:501700038229621147
17:501700038229621147
Himmel
Now is it still more eco friendly?
11/15
17:511700038306069816
17:511700038306069816
Himmel
Like maybe if my toilet breaks it can be an excuse to replace it but at the same time I've literally never seen a toilet break...
11/15
17:521700038339710733
17:521700038339710733
SpudTako
i kinda dont get your point , a bidet doesnt eliminate a toilet ?
11/15
17:521700038349208778
17:521700038349208778
Himmel
Weird 1am thoughts.
11/15
17:521700038371187343
17:521700038371187343
Anton Yadrov
Yeah, how does bidet rope into this?
11/15
17:521700038374964937
17:521700038374964937
SpudTako
you still need a toilet even if you install a bidet
11/15
17:531700038386697227
17:531700038386697227
Himmel
I was thinking of shipping a fancy toilet i saw in Japan the whole system.
11/15
17:531700038426290878
17:531700038426290878
Anton Yadrov
Music player and RGB included?
11/15
17:531700038432155654
17:531700038432155654
Himmel
Like i said it's just random 1am thoughts.
11/15
17:541700038444466621
17:541700038444466621
SpudTako
you'd be surprised how efficient sea shipping is , but the fuel used is horribly filthy
11/15
17:551700038526938242
17:551700038526938242
SpudTako
but yeah , all the shipping will not be eco friendly , i would just go with a side attached bidel faucet instead of a full japanese toilet with a built in bidel
11/15
17:551700038539454850
17:551700038539454850
Himmel
Self opening and closing lid, de odourizer, heated seats, self cleaning, and drying function
11/15
17:571700038621081694
17:571700038621081694
SpudTako
fancy , but what if it breaks
11/15
17:571700038635583791
17:571700038635583791
Himmel
Then my heart breaks with it
11/15
17:591700038747268030
17:591700038747268030
SpudTako
well , im thinking more of replacement parts and repair work
11/15
17:591700038778925181
17:591700038778925181
SpudTako
there TOTO in europe , maybe you can look for their options
11/15
17:591700038783020222
17:591700038783020222
SpudTako
there is*
11/15
17:591700038785038212
17:591700038785038212
Himmel
Like those toilets aren't even that expensive either It's like 2500 bucks.
11/15
18:001700038839396662
18:001700038839396662
Anton Yadrov
Those parts will cost almost like new one with shipping. Also $2500 for toilet is kinda
11/15
18:011700038870039698
18:011700038870039698
Himmel
Oh forget about parts Toto isn't even in Canada so that' point is moot.
11/15
18:021700038925426086
18:021700038925426086
Yamato
I paid 2.5k for my bed. I don't think I would pay that much for a toilet
11/15
18:021700038934292440
18:021700038934292440
Himmel
I'd have to smuggle it across the border.
11/15
18:021700038941210773
18:021700038941210773
SpudTako
oh wait , it was yamato in europe , not himmel
11/15
18:031700038980878392
18:031700038980878392
Himmel
My bed was literally 1/10th that price..... Ikea landfill bed
11/15
18:031700039030252713
18:031700039030252713
SpudTako
i would just go with a add on bidet seat himmel , take out the original toilet seat , and install the fancy toilet seat
11/15
18:041700039041225467
18:041700039041225467
Yamato
my old bed too, but I wanted a better one. Got a box spring bed for the new one
11/15
18:041700039042124013
18:041700039042124013
SpudTako
no need to get a whole toilet , and you can air freight it
11/15
18:041700039077717245
18:041700039077717245
Himmel
That would be the smart thing to do but unfortunately
11/15
18:051700039102983603
18:051700039102983603
SpudTako
why , dont tell me you already bought the whole toilet
11/15
18:071700039244191087
18:071700039244191087
Himmel
11/15
18:101700039405123224
18:101700039405123224
SpudTako
?!??
11/15
18:101700039452853552
18:101700039452853552
Himmel
@Yamato you mean to tell me you would spend 2.5 on keyboards and you wouldn't spend that on a Japanese toilet.
11/15
18:111700039480609056
18:111700039480609056
Yamato
yes, I never used a Japanese toilet
11/15
18:111700039503331630
18:111700039503331630
Yamato
maybe I will change my mind when I visit Japan next year, who knows
11/15
18:151700039725105075
18:151700039725105075
SpudTako
big news for holo fan games
11/15
18:151700039738114452
18:151700039738114452
SpudTako
also holocure "jump scare "
11/15
18:161700039788240272
18:161700039788240272
Anton Yadrov
$2.5k on KBs is somehow even worse than on a porcelain steed.
11/15
18:161700039801696247
18:161700039801696247
SpudTako
erm... i dont get it himmel , you want a fancy japanese toilet , why dont you just get a fancy toilet seat one instead of buying a whole fancy toilet ?
11/15
18:191700039941174844
18:191700039941174844
Himmel
I'ma be totally honest I totally got upsold.
11/15
18:191700039959565876
18:191700039959565876
Yamato
no no Anton, keyboards are nice. I only have 4 (soon 5) but when you experience them... you don't want to go back to the random office ones
11/15
18:191700039995659764
18:191700039995659764
Himmel
Ok you have a lot less than I thought...
11/15
18:201700040002231004
18:201700040002231004
Opty duCiel
I'd suggest a bidet attachment instead of buying a fancy all-in-one toilet
11/15
18:201700040019916018
18:201700040019916018
SpudTako
so you actually got a full fancy toilet ? himmel ?
11/15
18:211700040088734160
18:211700040088734160
Himmel
Yes I may or may not have been upsold
11/15
18:211700040095000582
18:211700040095000582
Yamato
I would have more Himmel, if I didn't have to renovate a full place from scratch. Maybe it is a blessing that I don't get more
11/15
18:211700040103928506
18:211700040103928506
Anton Yadrov
I have personal experience with Model M from my school days. Nothing can beat those memories. I am also a 100% laptop user, so KBs are moot to me. Nothing beats a good touchpad, that's my №1 reason.
11/15
18:211700040119972071
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Himmel
It definitely is @Yamato
11/15
18:221700040160131252
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Arc Looper
Anton, Spud, Himmel, Yamato, Opty, takos
11/15
18:221700040171583876
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Himmel
Hiya Arc
11/15
18:221700040171640389
18:221700040171640389
Yamato
heya Arc
11/15
18:231700040187933537
18:231700040187933537
SpudTako
still waiting for an official ina keyboard or caps so i can replace my logitech
11/15
18:231700040202642538
18:231700040202642538
Anton Yadrov
Back when I got my first gaming laptop in 2009, I couldn't find my P/S2 adapter for mouse, so started playing with the touchpad. A few months later and I completely lost the ability to use mice.
11/15
18:231700040212703379
18:231700040212703379
SpudTako
even a myth would be good
11/15
18:231700040218262553
18:231700040218262553
Himmel
You ever mind your keycaps just cracking at the stem and just peacing out @SpudTako ?
11/15
18:231700040238728001
18:231700040238728001
SpudTako
no idea , why the question ?
11/15
18:241700040249678037
18:241700040249678037
Yamato
don't think they will ever make a official Ina or myth set
11/15
18:241700040254945641
18:241700040254945641
SpudTako
im using a cheap membrane logitech "gaming" keyboard
11/15
18:241700040278489187
18:241700040278489187
Arc Looper
honestly been using the same 10 bucks keyboard for like a decade
11/15
18:241700040281066935
18:241700040281066935
Himmel
ohhhh the mechanical logitech keyboards the keycaps snap off...
11/15
18:251700040312971196
18:251700040312971196
Yamato
can you even change the keycaps on membrane keyboards? what kind of stems do they use?
11/15
18:251700040314172966
18:251700040314172966
Himmel
They made the hololive Connect the World keycap set
11/15
18:251700040350734325
18:251700040350734325
Opty duCiel
Membrane keycaps don't really have stems
11/15
18:251700040350962755
18:251700040350962755
SpudTako
i would just replace the whole keyboard if theres a ina or myth set , the hyte EN one is enticing but i cant get it
11/15
18:261700040365196757
18:261700040365196757
Himmel
Yes and no you can pop them off but nobody sells them and they shouldn't since the keyboard is cheaper than the caps anyways
11/15
18:261700040410194474
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SpudTako
yeah , i pull them off to clean the keyboard
11/15
18:261700040419941017
18:261700040419941017
Himmel
I used to mess with people in the office by popping off the keycaps and swapping around the alpha cluster to mess with people who can't touch type
11/15
18:271700040425503598
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Yamato
I mean... a GMK set is also more expensive as a lot of budget keyboards out there Himmel
11/15
18:271700040446061930
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Himmel
Fair point @Yamato
11/15
18:271700040456014974
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SpudTako
also if you guys missed the news , Cover has a new game derivative guideline , and fans can publish games under Cover now
11/15
18:271700040468712712
18:271700040468712712
Himmel
But a decent dye sub PBT from drop is 40 bucks
11/15
18:271700040470430511
18:271700040470430511
Yamato
interesting Spud
11/15
18:281700040484255632
18:281700040484255632
Opty duCiel
Bae's collabing with Korone, so her tweet's probably hinting at doing a song with her
11/15
18:281700040496253152
18:281700040496253152
Arc Looper
common cover W
11/15
18:281700040499484087
18:281700040499484087
Himmel
interesting move from Cover
11/15
18:281700040505351286
18:281700040505351286
SpudTako
the dog kanji would make sense then
11/15
18:281700040527537856
18:281700040527537856
SpudTako
they probably saw how successful holocure was
11/15
18:291700040566503163
18:291700040566503163
SpudTako
the KDTD attack in Holo Parade is .... sigh ....
11/15
18:291700040567617808
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Yamato
only ~1 more week until I can buy some Bingsu R2 extras Himmel, I need a spacebar and accent color kit... couldn't get that when ordering base and novelties
11/15
18:291700040584616134
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SpudTako
Holo Parade is one of the fan games being published under the new guideline
11/15
18:321700040758118452
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Arc Looper
apparently the devs went radio silent a while back, probably because they were already working with cover then
11/15
18:321700040771521802
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Himmel
@Yamato That set would go so hard on the F1-8X Regal
11/15
18:331700040800871219
18:331700040800871219
Yamato
I am using it for the Zoom75 in Plum
11/15
18:331700040838552551
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Himmel
Nice
11/15
18:341700040847502159
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Anton Yadrov
Ah yes, TKL. Pay more, get less. Now not only from Apple.
11/15
18:351700040910199842
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AngelTapka
tkl is cheaper than a full keyboard though
11/15
18:351700040941601386
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Himmel
Usually it is yeah like the K70 pro is 250 and the tkl championship is 220
11/15
18:361700040972100007
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AngelTapka
hi~
11/15
18:361700040978778173
18:361700040978778173
Yamato
heya Angel
11/15
18:361700040981289240
18:361700040981289240
Himmel
Hiya Angel
11/15
18:361700040991471826
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Arc Looper
Angel
11/15
18:371700041021903960
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Yamato
yeah TKL should be cheaper if there is a full size and TKL version of the keyboard available
11/15
18:371700041074259237
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Yamato
I always forget that I can't shorten keyboard to only the second half of the word, without the message getting bonked by chat filter
11/15
18:391700041172302742
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Himmel
Well gotta shorten it to keeb then.
11/15
18:411700041276850344
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Anton Yadrov
Quite a fitting one for TKL, heh.
11/15
18:471700041643886928
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張庭維
evening takos
11/15
18:501700041834474636
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Anton Yadrov
Evening (but still day for me, GMT+4)
11/15
18:501700041852017613
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Himmel
Good evening 2am
11/15
18:511700041891492799
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張庭維
go sleep... if you can, himel
11/15
18:541700042055149600
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Anton Yadrov
Yeah, don't wreck your sleep schedules. Even Ina is working on hers.
11/15
18:551700042126043949
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Himmel
Thanks i think i will actually peace out
11/15
18:551700042133780829
18:551700042133780829
Himmel
11/15
18:561700042161809111
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AngelTapka
Himmel
11/15
18:561700042185816412
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Anton Yadrov
G'night, Himmel
11/15
18:561700042213276488
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Arc Looper
cya Himmel
11/15
19:011700042482647205
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Arc Looper
imagine most of them wouldn't anyways, but wonder if already released fangames can charge for it now if they join holo indie
11/15
19:011700042516041740
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Arc Looper
Kay Yu is very adamant about keeping HoloCure free though
11/15
19:021700042531112867
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SpudTako
kay yu released that they will not join , but is happy for the changes
11/15
19:031700042614807908
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SpudTako
im guessing they already have cover support and contact for approval behind the scenes anyway
11/15
19:031700042617518775
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SpudTako
arc
11/15
19:051700042709409787
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Arc Looper
Spud
11/15
19:071700042821166622
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Yamato
Kanade karaoke into Ado's Unravel MV release
11/15
19:071700042844927198
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Anton Yadrov
Putting up a paywall defeats the purpose of a fan game, so I doubt that anyone will use that new policy, at least without very serious and long consideration.
11/15
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Arc Looper
unravel?
11/15
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Arc Looper
I mean, there's lots of paid touhou fangames since ZUN allows them
11/15
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Arc Looper
don't think there's anything wrong with capitalizing on fangames if you're allowed to, just think it probably won't happen to ones that already were free before the policy
11/15
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Rika Mayhem
To be clear, ZUN actually has a form (in japanese) to request a commercial license, it's a myth that he simply allows paid fan games
11/15
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[User Deleted]
What a news to wake up to, huh
11/15
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Arc Looper
yeah didn't mean that he just gives a blank check to devs, just that he allows them in some format
11/15
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Anton Yadrov
Everything is wrong with putting profit before passion. Greed is something to be avoided at all costs, not embraced. Especially when it comes to art. And yes, ZUN does demand pre-negotiation.
11/15
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Rika Mayhem
He does, however, turn a blind eye to those that don't because most fan games are not worth the trouble
11/15
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[User Deleted]
Not against it honestly, people put dozens to hundreds of hours into some fangames, no reason they can't make some small profit off of that
11/15
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Arc Looper
Rika, Fl----es
11/15
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[User Deleted]
It just turns things from "free to play can try whenever" to... is it worth the cash, and they best be ready for ACTUAL reviews, is all
11/15
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chumbeque
good morning
11/15
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Arc Looper
chum
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[User Deleted]
Heyo Takos
11/15
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Anton Yadrov
On a donation basis, yes, definitely. But not on a paywall basis.
11/15
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Arc Looper
I mean, I get your stance, but it's hard to make a living and these things take a lot of time, sadly a lot of people almost need to monetize their hobbies to justify the time spent on them
11/15
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[User Deleted]
Then just don't play them Anton
11/15
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Yamato
why would it be greed if you put a lot of hours, passion and money into making a fan game? If it is allowed to monetize it, go ahead if the quality supports it
11/15
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[User Deleted]
Cover's basically offering people the opportunity to turn their passion and love for Hololive into also making some small amount of cash, I'm in full support of that
11/15
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[User Deleted]
Are art commissions greed now? Is Ina greedy, because she presumably gets paid for her art?
11/15
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Opty duCiel
It's not a blank check, so as long as Cover's doing proper quality control I don't see a problem
11/15
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[User Deleted]
I can probably find half a dozen sponsored art streams she's done, even for things she loves
11/15
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[User Deleted]
Yeah, quality control is still important, though i suspect at at a minimum they'll review games for like... image purposes
11/15
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Arc Looper
yeah the guidelines say that games under the project need to go through an approval process
11/15
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[User Deleted]
Not going to approve some game that's just holomembers insulting each other
11/15
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Anton Yadrov
Commissions and sponsorships are official job contracts. Passions are hobbies, that's the difference. If you're making a game as a job, then yes, absolutely nothing wrong with putting a price tag.
11/15
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chumbeque
Arc, Fl... Deleted, Anton, Yamato, Opty
11/15
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Arc Looper
and approval can be taken away even after it's granted if they find something inappropriate after the fact
11/15
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Opty duCiel
Having them as a publisher means they can and will tell you to do things you wouldn't have done as a fangame
11/15
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Arc Looper
though I doubt that rule will come in play a lot
11/15
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Arc Looper
the removal of already approved ones part, that is
11/15
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[User Deleted]
Plus, Anton, it's not like devs can't just still make free fangames anyways
11/15
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[User Deleted]
Holocure has stated it's staying free, and I doubt smaller fanworks like Pebble Jame are about to start asking for ten bucks to play
11/15
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Anton Yadrov
Yes, it always costs them time and money. But if they claim it's a passion project, then at least put under a "pay what you want" price tag.
11/15
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Yamato
I don't see anything wrong with Pebble Jame charging someting like 1.99 for the game
11/15
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Opty duCiel
Current guidelines prevent any direct monetization like that
11/15
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Opty duCiel
If you want to make money you go through Cover
11/15
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chumbeque
i dont see anything wrong
11/15
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chumbeque
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Anton Yadrov
I just got hella pissed back when paid mods became a thing, no small thanks to todd "you don't understand how game development works" howard.
11/15
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Arc Looper
well, let's just agree to disagree then, no one here's probably changing their minds at this point
11/15
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[User Deleted]
Frankly, I'm also fine with paid mods if there's reasonable gates on it
11/15
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[User Deleted]
It's one thing for the devs to sponsor actually good mods at decent prices
11/15
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[User Deleted]
Like, I'd pay 10-15 bucks to play some huge overhaul mods
11/15
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[User Deleted]
It's less so when it's almost completely unregulated and basically just Bethesda trying to push into the market, like they did
11/15
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Arc Looper
that said, do have a bone to pick with bethesda and mods myself
11/15
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Rika Mayhem
At the end of the day, the actual issue isn't "paid or not" but greedy price tags and taking advantage of people's FOMO
11/15
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chumbeque
Rika
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Arc Looper
but it's more about how often they count on the modder community to do stuff their games should've already come with
11/15
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[User Deleted]
Yeah that's a whole OTHER issue with Bethesda games
11/15
19:261700044019366463
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[User Deleted]
"Here's Skyrim port 287! Also despite it being ten years since the initial release there's still multiple gamebreaking and questbreaking bugs"
11/15
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Anton Yadrov
At that point, it becomes an outsourced DLC, essentially. If it is good and sizeable enough, plus has full publisher approval, they might as well make it official. Modmaker will get more $ that way.
11/15
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chumbeque
im just here waiting for the new Ado cover and AZKi live
11/15
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Yamato
yeah sure, the price needs to be in relation to the product. Like, Pebble Jame for 2 Euro? sure nice take my money... but if it would be 25? nah
11/15
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Yamato
chumb, the song is live already if you want to listen to it
11/15
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Yamato
only the MV is in 30 minutes
11/15
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Arc Looper
iirc skyrim released with a soft lock so severe that if you got it, even auto-save wouldn't help you, only if you had another manual save
11/15
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chumbeque
yeah it was amazing!
11/15
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Arc Looper
cuz the soft-lock happened after an auto-save
11/15
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Arc Looper
and they took their sweet time fixing it because there was a mod for it anyways
11/15
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Anton Yadrov
I do remember that, actually. Had it from day one, got that bug, dropped the game for two years from malding.
11/15
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SpudTako
what time is Azki's live ? currently prone on the bed.... resisting the urge to nap ..... so i can sleep early for takotime
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chumbeque
in 30 minutes!
11/15
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chumbeque
also hi Spud
11/15
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Arc Looper
and I think Lamy's is 1h after Azki's
11/15
19:311700044264573824
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Arc Looper
after it starts that is, so back to back
11/15
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Opty duCiel
Azki anniversary then Lamy Birthday, yeah
11/15
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[User Deleted]
Y'all killing me, I gotta go to work I don't have time for lives
11/15
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Opty duCiel
Azki's also doing a member's-only encore
11/15
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SpudTako
did one of them get delayed ? ive never seen a date being shared like that
11/15
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chumbeque
today menus for me is Azki, fwmc morning and then tako time
11/15
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Arc Looper
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Opty duCiel
And then after Lamy's live, it's Kiara and Haachama
11/15
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Rika Mayhem
Has Ina mentioned which games she wants to play next? I used to watch her more, but Pikmin and FF just can't hold my attention
11/15
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[User Deleted]
Well guess I'll queue them up for later
11/15
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Yamato
nope, she wants to finish them first
11/15
19:321700044368124075
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SpudTako
she has in members , she also mentioned members know in one of the zatsu streams
11/15
19:321700044370465799
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Arc Looper
well she has a long backlog to pick from but I think she hasn't specified any concrete next game plans yet
11/15
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chumbeque
she is interested in zelda totk and she also mentioned something in members
11/15
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Yamato
if nothing comes out soon like Silksong, maybe ToTK?
11/15
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SpudTako
so i guess it kinda confirms whats next on the queue after FF16
11/15
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[User Deleted]
I think she eventually wants to go back to Elden Ring and finish that? Just kind of hard to jump back in right at endgame while rusty
11/15
19:331700044409971558
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Opty duCiel
Azki debuted the same day as Lamy's birthday is all
11/15
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[User Deleted]
She's mentioned ER a time or two, at least
11/15
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Rika Mayhem
Thanks all, I'll find out eventually anyway but was curious
11/15
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SpudTako
oh naruhodo , opty
11/15
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Arc Looper
when you have many members, some dates are bound to end up matching
11/15
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chumbeque
yeah Ina mentioned the elden ring de rust arc before dlc a few times
11/15
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SpudTako
shes announce the game probably when she finishes FF16 , rika
11/15
19:341700044471784445
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[User Deleted]
Did she ever do the deathroot area? Chat could always lead her there for some derusting
11/15
19:341700044473106121
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Arc Looper
iirc there was a stars member whose anniversary or birthday also happened on the same day as a live side member, but that might be easier to deal with since different branches
11/15
19:341700044481132860
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[User Deleted]
Since probably overleveled for it by now, including boss
11/15
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Yato Takoyaki
she never went there deleted
11/15
19:351700044510789759
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Yato Takoyaki
also hi takos
11/15
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chumbeque
Yato
11/15
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19:351700044517159318
[User Deleted]
Yato
11/15
19:351700044529460392
19:351700044529460392
[User Deleted]
That is not whoops
11/15
19:351700044536281302
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SpudTako
kono yato
11/15
19:351700044551860342
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Yamato
Yato
11/15
19:351700044552001307
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Yato Takoyaki
Chum, Flu-deleted, Arc, Spud
11/15
19:351700044559051847
19:351700044559051847
Yato Takoyaki
Yamato
11/15
19:351700044559150709
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Arc Looper
Yato
11/15
19:361700044570360069
19:361700044570360069
Yato Takoyaki
there is nothing wrong with
11/15
19:361700044599546813
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Yamato
yeah, they are delicious when grilled (for legal reasons, this is a joke)
11/15
19:361700044602771798
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Yato Takoyaki
tch, ER talk lure me out of my lurking
11/15
19:371700044626575166
19:371700044626575166
chumbeque
Yamato
11/15
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19:371700044632450915
Rika Mayhem
(Takodachi chat is so wholesome, first time I notice)
11/15
19:371700044657133495
19:371700044657133495
Arc Looper
11/15
19:371700044664405703
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Opty duCiel
Oh, looking at my debut and birthday pivot tables, I realize I forgot to update it with Advent and regloss
11/15
19:371700044667670268
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chumbeque
Takos are always wholesome tbh
11/15
19:371700044679293798
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Arc Looper
except when we're yabe
11/15
19:381700044682530389
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Opty duCiel
Rissa's the next birthday, in less than a week
11/15
19:381700044700211028
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Rika Mayhem
Ina's back disagrees, chum
11/15
19:381700044709442962
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chumbeque
i dont know, most of yabe takos i saw are tourists
11/15
19:381700044711864844
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Opty duCiel
Then right after that is HoloX's second anniversary
11/15
19:381700044714023065
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Yato Takoyaki
we are wholesome till cookie runs out ... but they never do
11/15
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chumbeque
specially in the inas back trend
11/15
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chumbeque
wich i hate
11/15
19:381700044725366569
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SpudTako
we need a hololive calendar , the cover reddit staff hasnt been updating their monthly reddit thread
11/15
19:391700044748261799
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Arc Looper
Takos are like the opposite of gremlins
11/15
19:391700044766901859
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Arc Looper
instead of "don't feed them after midnight" it's "make sure they have their midnight cookies"
11/15
19:391700044792118266
19:391700044792118266
Opty duCiel
Most of the back stuff was from tourists
11/15
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SpudTako
well , theres one so called "ina fan " fanartist that i hate
11/15
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chumbeque
yeah
11/15
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chumbeque
so tiring
11/15
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Yato Takoyaki
i think this topic getting uncomfy, we should switch it
11/15
19:401700044851759662
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chumbeque
but know i just remember what ina said last time and just ignore
11/15
19:401700044858352927
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Arc Looper
in a completely random note, Kiryu getting another clapping meme
11/15
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chumbeque
agree yayo and sorry
11/15
19:411700044872465679
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chumbeque
yayo hehe
11/15
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Yato Takoyaki
Yayo
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chumbeque
Yayo!
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いろはす Irohasu
heya takos
11/15
19:411700044889069559
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SpudTako
also i just realised ina drew oatchi's tail without a leaf for the thumbnail
11/15
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Arc Looper
that one scene where he first politely claps but then turns away and goes "kuso"
11/15
19:411700044894289350
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Yamato
heya Irohasu~
11/15
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Arc Looper
Irohasu
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chumbeque
Irohasu!
11/15
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Yato Takoyaki
yeah i burst laughing first time i saw it in game Arc... cause it's so real
11/15
19:421700044930273658
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Yato Takoyaki
Irohasu
11/15
19:421700044947867267
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Arc Looper
I've seen it used in memes 3 times now
11/15
19:421700044954732926
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SpudTako
irohasu
11/15
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SpudTako
can you recommend any good takoyaki premix brands , irohasu ?
11/15
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いろはす Irohasu
Arc, Spud, Yamato, chum, Yayo
11/15
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Arc Looper
Yayo Takotaki
11/15
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Yato Takoyaki
*Yayo will remember that
11/15
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chumbeque
Yayo
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いろはす Irohasu
Premix brands? cheese maybe?
11/15
19:451700045135474771
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SpudTako
, someone drew a kroniified ina animation
11/15
19:451700045143205599
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Arc Looper
apparently taki can mean waterfall? that's a funny image, a waterfall of takos
11/15
19:461700045210466113
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Anton Yadrov
*inkfall
11/15
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いろはす Irohasu
sorry, what is "premixed barands"?
11/15
19:471700045230459986
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SpudTako
and kronii with a ina fied outfit
11/15
19:471700045262799178
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SpudTako
takoyaki premix powder brand , where you can just add water to get takoyaki batter
11/15
19:471700045279360333
19:471700045279360333
teamakite
11/15
19:481700045309409290
19:481700045309409290
chumbeque
Tea
11/15
19:481700045311582397
19:481700045311582397
SpudTako
takoyaki ready to mix flour
11/15
19:481700045320127734
19:481700045320127734
Arc Looper
tea
11/15
19:491700045341193239
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張庭維
Comic clud's topic today: Tou-Hou
11/15
19:491700045342398339
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SpudTako
tea
11/15
19:491700045363403766
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teamakite
hey Chum, Spud, Arc, Yato, Deck, Anton, Irohasu
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いろはす Irohasu
Ah naruhodo I recommend otafuku or nisshin
11/15
19:501700045401939655
19:501700045401939655
SpudTako
11/15
19:501700045407693722
19:501700045407693722
いろはす Irohasu
Tea
11/15
19:501700045414977234
19:501700045414977234
Arc Looper
Deck
11/15
19:501700045416929876
19:501700045416929876
Yato Takoyaki
hi tea
11/15
19:501700045438537836
19:501700045438537836
chumbeque
Deck
11/15
19:501700045451936234
19:501700045451936234
Yato Takoyaki
Deck
11/15
19:501700045457674770
19:501700045457674770
張庭維
Konbanwa(?) takos~
11/15
19:511700045495908754
19:511700045495908754
いろはす Irohasu
Deck
11/15
19:551700045708325493
19:551700045708325493
Arc Looper
almost time for Azki's live
11/15
19:551700045731312895
19:551700045731312895
SpudTako
ahh nice , i found a japanese import shop
11/15
19:571700045847760323
19:571700045847760323
Yamato
oh Kanade released a new cover
11/15
19:571700045862387683
19:571700045862387683
Arc Looper
11/15
19:581700045919125233
19:581700045919125233
Kotelski
Azki 5th anniversary 3D live stream started
11/15
19:581700045926472950
19:581700045926472950
Yato Takoyaki
AZKi live started
11/15
19:581700045932734287
19:581700045932734287
張庭維
3 Doujin legends: TH, Fate (TM)... and who?
11/15
19:581700045935046183
19:581700045935046183
SpudTako
they dont have bonito flakes
11/15
19:591700045940020058
19:591700045940020058
Arc Looper
11/15
19:591700045947286346
19:591700045947286346
Arc Looper
TH being touhou right?
11/15
19:591700045953700899
19:591700045953700899
いろはす Irohasu
11/15
19:591700045971887479
19:591700045971887479
chumbeque
okay Ado mv first then i jump to AZKi live
11/15
19:591700045977544381
19:591700045977544381
chumbeque
11/15
20:001700046022400468
20:001700046022400468
Kotelski
11/15
20:001700046032849821
20:001700046032849821
張庭維
Indeed (oh, and Higurashi- When they cry)
11/15
20:001700046034580729
20:001700046034580729
Yato Takoyaki
11/15
20:001700046043616098
20:001700046043616098
AngelTapka
11/15
20:001700046043767859
20:001700046043767859
Arc Looper
Kotelski
11/15
20:001700046055706797
20:001700046055706797
chumbeque
Kotel, Angel
11/15
20:011700046072124356
20:011700046072124356
chumbeque
AZKi angelic Voice
11/15
20:011700046076387552
20:011700046076387552
いろはす Irohasu
Kotel, Angel
11/15
20:011700046088650640
20:011700046088650640
Yato Takoyaki
Angel
11/15
20:011700046116604223
20:011700046116604223
Kotelski
Arc chum Yayo Irohasu
11/15
20:021700046152114845
20:021700046152114845
Yato Takoyaki
Kotel
11/15
20:021700046157811928
20:021700046157811928
SpudTako
11/15
20:031700046198862377
20:031700046198862377
AngelTapka
chum, Irohasu, Yato, Arc, Spud, everytako
11/15
20:031700046218077833
20:031700046218077833
Kotelski
11/15
20:031700046233395515
20:031700046233395515
teamakite
hey Angel, Kotel
11/15
20:041700046281336905
20:041700046281336905
Kotelski
Tea
11/15
20:051700046300211229
20:051700046300211229
Arc Looper
love how she turned her geoguessr prowess into a catchphrase
11/15
20:061700046409037807
20:061700046409037807
Kotelski
11/15
20:061700046410361247
20:061700046410361247
chumbeque
cute diva
11/15
20:071700046420596437
20:071700046420596437
Kotelski
11/15
20:071700046422825688
20:071700046422825688
Kotelski
11/15
20:071700046441540913
20:071700046441540913
いろはす Irohasu
11/15
20:071700046463130333
20:071700046463130333
SpudTako
nya
11/15
20:081700046492196860
20:081700046492196860
chumbeque
nya
11/15
20:081700046521293673
20:081700046521293673
張庭維
11/15
20:081700046538115612
20:081700046538115612
SpudTako
seems like its live ? camera work looks live
11/15
20:091700046583373363
20:091700046583373363
Kotelski
Excellenyat performanyace nya
11/15
20:101700046629804798
20:101700046629804798
Kotelski
11/15
20:111700046663618945
20:111700046663618945
SpudTako
the mixing is live as well lol , yeah , its a live performance
11/15
20:121700046730448290
20:121700046730448290
張庭維
Any stream(s) or collab(s)
11/15
20:131700046780340625
20:131700046780340625
張庭維
on air ? (btw, what will the new year event be ?)
11/15
20:131700046827483886
20:131700046827483886
chumbeque
AZKi anniversay live right now deck
11/15
20:151700046903171730
20:151700046903171730
Kotelski
and Kiara&Haachama collab in about two hours
11/15
20:151700046910574919
20:151700046910574919
SpudTako
studio server kun , ganbarre
11/15
20:151700046930593240
20:151700046930593240
Yato Takoyaki
11/15
20:151700046934772357
20:151700046934772357
Kotelski
11/15
20:151700046936624847
20:151700046936624847
Arc Looper
MACROSS!
11/15
20:151700046941049614
20:151700046941049614
いろはす Irohasu
11/15
20:151700046945423696
20:151700046945423696
Arc Looper
11/15
20:151700046947078312
20:151700046947078312
chumbeque
this song
11/15
20:161700046966545366
20:161700046966545366
いろはす Irohasu
Macross
11/15
20:161700047013588249
20:161700047013588249
Kotelski
11/15
20:191700047144205479
20:191700047144205479
SpudTako
? cover ?
11/15
20:191700047153342303
20:191700047153342303
Arc Looper
11/15
20:201700047214291556
20:201700047214291556
Kotelski
11/15
20:201700047236914744
20:201700047236914744
いろはす Irohasu
11/15
20:211700047310164514
20:211700047310164514
Arc Looper
man, I love macross
11/15
20:221700047357969394
20:221700047357969394
SpudTako
where to start tho
11/15
20:231700047399170971
20:231700047399170971
chumbeque
11/15
20:231700047403570339
20:231700047403570339
Kotelski
NIce
11/15
20:231700047407352580
20:231700047407352580
SpudTako
11/15
20:231700047417106712
20:231700047417106712
いろはす Irohasu
11/15
20:231700047426437240
20:231700047426437240
Arc Looper
for Macross, Spud?
11/15
20:231700047431663024
20:231700047431663024
SpudTako
yeh
11/15
20:241700047452378090
20:241700047452378090
Arc Looper
I would genuinely recommend watching the original first, then after that mostly in any order
11/15
20:251700047510335483
20:251700047510335483
Arc Looper
there's continuity in-universe but for the most part if you've seen the first one, the rest can be pretty stand-alone
11/15
20:251700047531182376
20:251700047531182376
SpudTako
how many episode are there for all of them ?
11/15
20:251700047545443056
20:251700047545443056
Arc Looper
for all of them? would have to check
11/15
20:251700047548542404
20:251700047548542404
SpudTako
ball park range ? 50 ? 150 ?
11/15
20:261700047577788316
20:261700047577788316
Arc Looper
well it's definitely over 100
11/15
20:261700047588102641
20:261700047588102641
Arc Looper
the first one had around 30~40 iirc
11/15
20:271700047620635006
20:271700047620635006
SpudTako
what is the original's name ?
11/15
20:271700047625004010
20:271700047625004010
Kotelski
11/15
20:291700047745234377
20:291700047745234377
Arc Looper
Super Dimension Fortress Macross
11/15
20:291700047777674856
20:291700047777674856
Arc Looper
my personal recommendation would be the original, then frontier
11/15
20:291700047778592187
20:291700047778592187
SpudTako
11/15
20:311700047880716639
20:311700047880716639
Kotelski
11/15
20:311700047885099028
20:311700047885099028
いろはす Irohasu
11/15
20:311700047889946779
20:311700047889946779
SpudTako
11/15
20:311700047893132274
20:311700047893132274
Arc Looper
11/15
20:311700047897022839
20:311700047897022839
chumbeque
11/15
20:321700047932856625
20:321700047932856625
SpudTako
11/15
20:321700047945746893
20:321700047945746893
いろはす Irohasu
seiso
11/15
20:321700047959881847
20:321700047959881847
SpudTako
is this the new outfit ?
11/15
20:331700047980903051
20:331700047980903051
いろはす Irohasu
yes
11/15
20:331700047983642049
20:331700047983642049
SpudTako
11/15
20:331700048032207739
20:331700048032207739
Yato Takoyaki
11/15
20:341700048082200772
20:341700048082200772
Kotelski
Yeah, i don't seem to find this outfit appear anywhere else, pretty design btw
11/15
20:351700048102713925
20:351700048102713925
SpudTako
pretty
11/15
20:351700048122673932
20:351700048122673932
chumbeque
beautiful
11/15
20:351700048150445888
20:351700048150445888
Kotelski
11/15
20:391700048380644540
20:391700048380644540
張庭維
How's your day today, takos?
11/15
20:401700048418207631
20:401700048418207631
Kotelski
11/15
20:421700048536678401
20:421700048536678401
Yato Takoyaki
11/15
20:421700048544200253
20:421700048544200253
いろはす Irohasu
11/15
20:431700048587356587
20:431700048587356587
Kotelski
Judging by the reactions it not only my stream
11/15
20:431700048632019053
20:431700048632019053
Kotelski
11/15
20:431700048632743530
20:431700048632743530
chumbeque
INOCHI
11/15
20:431700048638433703
20:431700048638433703
Yato Takoyaki
yeah, it was on live side
11/15
20:441700048643573813
20:441700048643573813
Yato Takoyaki
11/15
20:441700048677120411
20:441700048677120411
SpudTako
I love this song !!
11/15
20:441700048689778703
20:441700048689778703
SpudTako
11/15
20:481700048886890192
20:481700048886890192
chumbeque
11/15
20:501700049052234705
20:501700049052234705
SpudTako
i guess , we can bet on more ina merch during her 3D live excellent
11/15
20:511700049098404301
20:511700049098404301
Yato Takoyaki
my wallet
11/15
20:511700049107472614
20:511700049107472614
SpudTako
what wallet
11/15
20:521700049133532496
20:521700049133532496
Yato Takoyaki
the one i just took from you
11/15
20:521700049141794668
20:521700049141794668
Arc Looper
Kanata's been on all the lives, dang
11/15
20:531700049198289891
20:531700049198289891
Kotelski
11/15
20:531700049198339019
20:531700049198339019
SpudTako
jokes on you , its empty
11/15
20:531700049213589785
20:531700049213589785
Yato Takoyaki
tch
11/15
20:531700049218778395
20:531700049218778395
chumbeque
11/15
20:531700049227015040
20:531700049227015040
いろはす Irohasu
11/15
20:531700049236549409
20:531700049236549409
Yato Takoyaki
11/15
20:531700049238108292
20:531700049238108292
SpudTako
11/15
20:541700049262288960
20:541700049262288960
Kotelski
11/15
20:561700049396113787
20:561700049396113787
SpudTako
so after ina's 3D live , its kiara's , and ame's is probably in the works im guessing, since shes been so busy?
11/15
20:571700049427252974
20:571700049427252974
SpudTako
and all of myth will have theirs, promise next im guessing
11/15
20:571700049461398127
20:571700049461398127
Kotelski
11/15
20:571700049469609418
20:571700049469609418
SpudTako
11/15
20:571700049471077762
20:571700049471077762
chumbeque
11/15
20:581700049492753868
20:581700049492753868
いろはす Irohasu
11/15
20:581700049498566240
20:581700049498566240
SpudTako
11/15
20:581700049504490910
20:581700049504490910
Kotelski
just like in real life
11/15
20:581700049537961770
20:581700049537961770
いろはす Irohasu
11/15
20:591700049597170242
20:591700049597170242
AngelTapka
11/15
21:001700049614654709
21:001700049614654709
chumbeque
cya later takos have fun
11/15
21:001700049629050866
21:001700049629050866
Yato Takoyaki
cya Chumb
11/15
21:001700049646308108
21:001700049646308108
SpudTako
chumb
11/15
21:011700049669024706
21:011700049669024706
SpudTako
lol at all the new members joining azki's membership
11/15
21:011700049684530102
21:011700049684530102
いろはす Irohasu
chum
11/15
21:021700049746593646
21:021700049746593646
AngelTapka
chum
11/15
21:031700049803930281
21:031700049803930281
Arc Looper
lol this intro
11/15
21:041700049897248976
21:041700049897248976
いろはす Irohasu
Nene?
11/15
21:091700050161658898
21:091700050161658898
SpudTako
11/15
21:101700050201776536
21:101700050201776536
SpudTako
kanata is gonna crush hands
11/15
21:131700050383471860
21:131700050383471860
Kotelski
See ya chum
11/15
21:131700050391809017
21:131700050391809017
SpudTako
nene
11/15
21:181700050713191715
21:181700050713191715
SpudTako
suisei so cool
11/15
21:191700050774797420
21:191700050774797420
SpudTako
nene
11/15
21:191700050779824696
21:191700050779824696
Kotelski
11/15
21:191700050784960390
21:191700050784960390
いろはす Irohasu
11/15
21:201700050818055595
21:201700050818055595
SpudTako
danchou does have extra weight
11/15
21:201700050844545805
21:201700050844545805
SpudTako
choco sen
11/15
21:211700050901425104
21:211700050901425104
Kotelski
11/15
21:231700051017274381
21:231700051017274381
SpudTako
matsuri
11/15
21:231700051023465153
21:231700051023465153
Kotelski
11/15
21:231700051024367946
21:231700051024367946
Arc Looper
LOL
11/15
21:231700051029024200
21:231700051029024200
SpudTako
11/15
21:241700051041940947
21:241700051041940947
いろはす Irohasu
11/15
21:241700051049641256
21:241700051049641256
Yato Takoyaki
11/15
21:241700051053732881
21:241700051053732881
Kotelski
this squeak at the end
11/15
21:241700051062274175
21:241700051062274175
Arc Looper
Kanataso does a little trolling
11/15
21:241700051080036824
21:241700051080036824
SpudTako
11/15
21:261700051165549181
21:261700051165549181
Kotelski
11/15
21:261700051178672493
21:261700051178672493
いろはす Irohasu
11/15
21:261700051183621588
21:261700051183621588
SpudTako
nice one kotel
11/15
21:261700051217926654
21:261700051217926654
Arc Looper
11/15
21:271700051254152918
21:271700051254152918
SpudTako
sui-chan
11/15
21:271700051259341614
21:271700051259341614
Kotelski
11/15
21:271700051270270609
21:271700051270270609
いろはす Irohasu
sui chan
11/15
21:271700051279156350
21:271700051279156350
Yato Takoyaki
11/15
21:281700051328891602
21:281700051328891602
SpudTako
11/15
21:281700051330589275
21:281700051330589275
張庭維
Anime Wensday~
11/15
21:281700051331657174
21:281700051331657174
Kotelski
Mascot abuse time
11/15
21:291700051347002155
21:291700051347002155
Kotelski
Nice
11/15
21:291700051363788331
21:291700051363788331
Kotelski
11/15
21:291700051365302302
21:291700051365302302
いろはす Irohasu
?
11/15
21:291700051376596622
21:291700051376596622
SpudTako
?
11/15
21:311700051464471101
21:311700051464471101
Kotelski
!
11/15
21:311700051484373841
21:311700051484373841
SpudTako
O
11/15
21:311700051492504886
21:311700051492504886
Arc Looper
...お
11/15
21:311700051493781512
21:311700051493781512
いろはす Irohasu
Oh
11/15
21:321700051571086520
21:321700051571086520
Kotelski
おh
11/15
21:321700051577963110
21:321700051577963110
SpudTako
ya ?
11/15
21:331700051619054502
21:331700051619054502
Arc Looper
Choco surprisingly fit tho, ngl
11/15
21:331700051627665368
21:331700051627665368
Arc Looper
or at least fit for these exercises
11/15
21:341700051664975684
21:341700051664975684
SpudTako
im surprised at how unfit suisei is , i would assume she does alot of dancing work
11/15
21:341700051691071595
21:341700051691071595
SpudTako
nene would be quite fit trekking in the wood to find beetles
11/15
21:351700051703719572
21:351700051703719572
SpudTako
woods
11/15
21:351700051737220208
21:351700051737220208
Arc Looper
in all fairness, fitness can be pretty weird some times
11/15
21:351700051749710731
21:351700051749710731
Kotelski
maybe it's not translate into prowess in these kind of exercises Spud
11/15
21:351700051759866580
21:351700051759866580
Arc Looper
some people can struggle with specific things despite being overall fit
11/15
21:361700051787998167
21:361700051787998167
Arc Looper
cute lol
11/15
21:361700051813875256
21:361700051813875256
SpudTako
huh suisei seemed like she was struggling in the huh
11/15
21:361700051818307244
21:361700051818307244
Arc Looper
especially when it comes to the flexibility exercises
11/15
21:371700051824206703
21:371700051824206703
Yato Takoyaki
11/15
21:371700051835685735
21:371700051835685735
いろはす Irohasu
11/15
21:371700051841071213
21:371700051841071213
SpudTako
struggling in the start*
11/15
21:371700051867374704
21:371700051867374704
Arc Looper
infinite stream now because Iroha won't stop
11/15
21:381700051892571635
21:381700051892571635
Arc Looper
meanwhile Matsuri
11/15
21:381700051898689042
21:381700051898689042
Kotelski
yeah
11/15
21:401700052003409436
21:401700052003409436
Daniel Sobota
good morninggoing to watchwith hachama with you guys
11/15
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Anton Yadrov
Ina has flexibility issues, too, despite having been an athlete in school. Some people are just less lucky than others in their collagen tax. Some can't even swim at all, due to bone density.
11/15
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Arc Looper
Daniel
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21:401700052033965307
Kotelski
Daniel
11/15
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21:401700052039808998
Daniel Sobota
arc
11/15
21:411700052061306450
21:411700052061306450
Daniel Sobota
kote
11/15
21:411700052062690920
21:411700052062690920
Arc Looper
yeah and flexibility in specific can vary a lot depending on where
11/15
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SpudTako
ello daniel
11/15
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Daniel Sobota
spud
11/15
21:411700052113156517
21:411700052113156517
Arc Looper
also ngl, this one seems more like a matter of patience than stamina lol
11/15
21:421700052150340590
21:421700052150340590
SpudTako
※さくらみこは出ていません from miko
11/15
21:421700052157996675
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Arc Looper
unless the 3D is misleading about the pace they were going at, it honestly seems like you could continue indefinitely
11/15
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21:421700052167198675
Arc Looper
11/15
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21:421700052174885196
いろはす Irohasu
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21:431700052186402838
Yato Takoyaki
wee~
11/15
21:431700052189623920
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SpudTako
ue ?
11/15
21:431700052204351827
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Anton Yadrov
They are closely related. Anxiety burns extra energy and forces ANS into signaling the brain for sleep mode afterwards.
11/15
21:441700052240539447
21:441700052240539447
いろはす Irohasu
Noel
11/15
21:441700052249572962
21:441700052249572962
Kotelski
11/15
21:441700052250053493
21:441700052250053493
SpudTako
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21:441700052259453087
21:441700052259453087
Arc Looper
the replay
11/15
21:441700052277328296
21:441700052277328296
いろはす Irohasu
11/15
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21:451700052331050964
Kotelski
Nice
11/15
21:451700052333635162
21:451700052333635162
SpudTako
weeeeee
11/15
21:451700052354890615
21:451700052354890615
SpudTako
not
11/15
21:451700052358088447
21:451700052358088447
Kotelski
11/15
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21:461700052363860702
Arc Looper
don't think this one has anything to do with fitness tbh
11/15
21:461700052379833934
21:461700052379833934
Kotelski
Nene
11/15
21:461700052397327951
21:461700052397327951
SpudTako
nene
11/15
21:461700052408673446
21:461700052408673446
SpudTako
matsuri
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21:471700052479205784
いろはす Irohasu
Nene
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Anton Yadrov
Also must mention Alpha-actinin-3 here. If a person has it, they will always tire out faster and are more susceptible to anxiety and cold. But their muscles have higher peak potential. Evolution, ho.
11/15
21:591700053169241485
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Arc Looper
turns out everyone's built different
11/15
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21:591700053185769886
Arc Looper
also love Polka's evil witch laugh
11/15
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いろはす Irohasu
cya takos
11/15
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Daniel Sobota
irohasu
11/15
22:021700053326928409
22:021700053326928409
Daniel Sobota
cute opening
11/15
22:021700053347973931
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Arc Looper
cya Irohasu
11/15
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Anton Yadrov
cya
11/15
22:051700053519501089
22:051700053519501089
Daniel Sobota
the black dress
11/15
22:091700053774265457
22:091700053774265457
Kotelski
See ya Irohasu
11/15
22:111700053866731558
22:111700053866731558
Kotelski
Ah yes "RTX on" Senchou
11/15
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22:111700053868170111
Just a Kobe Fan
“Next meme”
11/15
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Kotelski
Takobrat
11/15
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22:121700053965945856
Just a Kobe Fan
Im focusing so much on hearing haachamas aussie accent since she’s speaking abit of english
11/15
22:121700053973764789
22:121700053973764789
Just a Kobe Fan
Kotel
11/15
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Daniel Sobota
yes that worked so well
11/15
22:141700054085415525
22:141700054085415525
Daniel Sobota
poor fauna
11/15
22:191700054379225029
22:191700054379225029
Kotelski
nice one
11/15
22:271700054857969555
22:271700054857969555
Daniel Sobota
11/15
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22:281700054892109881
Kotelski
I can't believe Watame died for this video
11/15
22:281700054928607053
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SpudTako
Ding ~~
11/15
22:371700055429068000
22:371700055429068000
Daniel Sobota
11/15
22:401700055659256140
22:401700055659256140
Daniel Sobota
OPE
11/15
22:401700055659657207
22:401700055659657207
SpudTako
oooh , from a fwmc clip , i feel that ina playing fashion dreamer is gonna be amazing
11/15
22:431700055817491312
22:431700055817491312
SpudTako
oooh , kevin penkin did music for apothecary diaries
11/15
22:451700055917934072
22:451700055917934072
Arc Looper
it's ok Watame respawns in 8s
11/15
22:501700056207616844
22:501700056207616844
張庭維
collab~
11/15
22:551700056523181480
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Arc Looper
classic Watame
11/15
22:551700056531441364
22:551700056531441364
Arc Looper
11/15
22:561700056591022406
22:561700056591022406
ᵈᵉⁿᶻᵃʲ
wtf happened to the chat layout
11/15
22:571700056643509773
22:571700056643509773
Kotelski
cooking!is back
11/15
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23:001700056808623910
Arc Looper
denz chat looks normal to me though
11/15
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Anton Yadrov
Not a true holoaussie stream without Bae...
11/15
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ᵈᵉⁿᶻᵃʲ
Arc
11/15
23:041700057054651250
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Daniel Sobota
if you're interested watame is streaming now
11/15
23:051700057151780844
23:051700057151780844
Kotelski
Yep, "The kidnap"
11/15
23:061700057208562408
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Daniel Sobota
love the start screen
11/15
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Kotelski
I just realized hasn't the only HoloEN that played it?
11/15
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Daniel Sobota
dkn good question
11/15
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Kotelski
No, Fuwamoco also played it
11/15
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張庭維
Played... wut?
11/15
23:111700057518351068
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Daniel Sobota
more for the vod list lol
11/15
23:131700057608169239
23:131700057608169239
Daniel Sobota
game called kidnap
11/15
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23:131700057634782219
Kotelski
Yeah, that's all, only this two(three?) JP...I mean EN members
11/15
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Arc Looper
EN in general doesn't seem as hype about playing horror in general, and they skip chilla's art games quite a bit
11/15
23:171700057841755397
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teamakite
what horror, it's not Halloween anymore
11/15
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23:171700057864196776
Kotelski
the horror of existence Tea
11/15
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張庭維
horror? I prefer tear-bursting games...
11/15
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Arc Looper
it's always halloween in my heart
11/15
23:211700058087472413
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Kotelski
Calli played them chilla's game
11/15
23:231700058180733945
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Anton Yadrov
Honestly, most "horror" games are so overblown that what you experience is just cringe, interrupted by occasional cheap jumpscares. Not a true "stunned in your seat" experience. True hora doko?
11/15
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teamakite
play Darkwood if you want real horror
11/15
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teamakite
scariest game I've played and there's 0 jumpscares
11/15
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Arc Looper
honestly think the best approach to horror is making it be horror in aesthetics/theme, but avoiding "horror gameplay"
11/15
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teamakite
(I will always shill Darkwood at any opportunity, game is insanely good)
11/15
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ᵈᵉⁿᶻᵃʲ
ah yes everytime someone mentions horror tea comes with Darkwood
11/15
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teamakite
cause it's a damn good game
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Daniel Sobota
that's all for now cya for dandori final enjoy
11/15
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teamakite
good night Daniel
11/15
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Anton Yadrov
Played it in early access back in 2014 or so. The top-down view just doesn't do it for me, I must feel physically present in the game for the horror aspects to work on me.
11/15
23:281700058529437916
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teamakite
you're missing out greatly on full release, trust me
11/15
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Kotelski
honestly the more someone shill something to me the more I don't want to touch it but I'm as stubborn as a mule in general after all
11/15
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Kotelski
See ya Daniel
11/15
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Anton Yadrov
Well, maybe I'll give it a try again. But then again, I am not squeamish at g*re, real cadavers and whatnot. It is, in fact, quite hard to scare or surprise me irl.
11/15
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teamakite
I understand your point Kotel, used to be same, still same... well, when it comes to overblown popular franchises. If someone heavily praises an indie game, I will darn sure check it out tho
11/15
23:311700058674736374
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Anton Yadrov
That's how indie goes, after all. Word of mouth, due to the lack of marketing campaigns.
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teamakite
Darkwood biggest strength is atmosphere and impeccable sound design. I find that sound alone sells horror way more than anything else
11/15
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Arc Looper
brain works weird in terms of recommendations
11/15
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Arc Looper
some times I check a series because it was getting hate instead too
11/15
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teamakite
yeah it sure does
11/15
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teamakite
but honestly you should resist less, you live only once, gotta try out as much stuff as you can instead of being glued to one thing
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Anton Yadrov
Sound is good there, I do agree. But I also need the visual "presence" aspect to truly immerse myself. Will try it again sometime, though.
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23:351700058940571335
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teamakite
unless it's some overblown AAA game, get the heck out with those
11/15
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teamakite
Darkwood has great visuals too, just not in your face if that makes sense
11/15
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Anton Yadrov
True, I am the type who needs to try out something personally before jumping on the hate bandwagon. Just because someone said "X is trash", doesn't mean it can't be a treasure to me.
11/15
23:371700059063047271
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Anton Yadrov
Like School Days, for example. Solid 7/10 from me, unironically.
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お兄ぎり 🍙
hello Takos
11/15
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Arc Looper
Onigiri
11/15
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23:401700059233481083
Kotelski
Onigiri
11/15
23:401700059233738889
23:401700059233738889
Arc Looper
can't let others dictate your taste
11/15
23:401700059244036342
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お兄ぎり 🍙
speaking of trash/no trash, I got talked into watching the five nights at Freddy's movie yesterday
11/15
23:411700059269021101
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Anton Yadrov
Doughnut
11/15
23:411700059281175284
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Arc Looper
though that also includes being wary of being a contrarian just for the sake of it, been there a few times
11/15
23:421700059333490430
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teamakite
hey Onigiri
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お兄ぎり 🍙
not sure how I'd rate it, I guess it was entertaining trash, which is what I kinda expected anyway
11/15
23:431700059381430622
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teamakite
I'm far from being FNAF fan, tho I know lore a fair bit thanks to friends... but I lowkey enjoyed the movie?
11/15
23:431700059415986914
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お兄ぎり 🍙
I haven't played any of the games
11/15
23:431700059426586657
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teamakite
Like, it's decent for what it is, seems to be just made for fans by fans
11/15
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teamakite
Which is honestly how it should be for game movies imo
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お兄ぎり 🍙
but the movie was enjoyable if you have the right expectations. it's not really scary, or gorey, nothing groundbreaking
11/15
23:451700059523664148
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Arc Looper
oh interesting, Pekora is trying Luke in SF6
11/15
23:451700059547103297
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張庭維
what's the topic now, takos?
11/15
23:451700059554709932
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お兄ぎり 🍙
at certain moments it felt kinda sorta like a weird version of "home alone"
11/15
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ᵈᵉⁿᶻᵃʲ
"horror" movies aren´t scary they just use jumpscares and that´s it
11/15
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Anton Yadrov
FNAF, that one I'll probably pass on. Games were definitely not my thing at all.
11/15
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teamakite
I don't like the gameplay of FNAF, but lore is enjoyable imo
11/15
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お兄ぎり 🍙
yea there aren't really any actual jumpscares either lol
11/15
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teamakite
jump scares in general is a very cheap thing regardless of media
11/15
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teamakite
it's rarely done right
11/15
23:581700060291336971
23:581700060291336971
SpudTako
ina soooon
11/15
23:581700060333789221
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Anton Yadrov
In 7 hours.